How good you are at Spark or Flink ≠ how good you are at data engineering. After years of data engineering experience at Airbnb, Netflix, and Facebook, Zach Wilson is now focused on spreading the knowledge in EcZachly and all over social media. He met Benjamin Wagner to explain why data modeling and storytelling are more important than the actual tech, why data engineering is going to see more job growth than data science, and what brought him to start creating content, reaching over 250K followers on LinkedIn.